Legislature(2019 - 2020)DAVIS 106

05/06/2020 08:00 AM House COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS

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08:07:00 AM Start
08:08:39 AM Presentation: Covid-19 Impacts on Communities and Cares Act Funding
10:31:18 AM Adjourn
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-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
+ Presentation: COVID-19 Impacts on Communities TELECONFERENCED
and CARES Act Funding by Nils Andreassen, Exec.
Dir., Alaska Municipal League
Additional Remarks, tentatively, by officials
from: City of Bethel, City of Dillingham, City of
Fairbanks, City of Gustavus, City of Soldotna
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
    HOUSE COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                   
                          May 6, 2020                                                                                           
                           8:07 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Harriet Drummond, Co-Chair                                                                                       
Representative Sara Hannan, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Matt Claman                                                                                                      
Representative Jonathan Kreiss-Tomkins                                                                                          
Representative Steve Thompson                                                                                                   
Representative Sharon Jackson                                                                                                   
Representative DeLena Johnson                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Grier Hopkins                                                                                                    
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
Representative Dan Ortiz (via teleconference)                                                                                   
Representative Chris Tuck (via teleconference)                                                                                  
Representative Bryce Edgmon (via teleconference)                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: COVID-19 IMPACTS ON COMMUNITIES AND CARES ACT                                                                     
FUNDING                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
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PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
NILS ANDREASSEN, Executive Director                                                                                             
Alaska Municipal League                                                                                                         
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Gave a PowerPoint presentation on COVID-19                                                               
Impacts on Communities and CARES Act Funding.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
STEPHANIE QUEEN, City Manager                                                                                                   
City of Soldotna                                                                                                                
Soldotna, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified  following  the presentation  on                                                             
COVID-19 Impacts on Communities and CARES Act Funding.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CALVIN CASIPIT, Mayor                                                                                                           
City of Gustavus                                                                                                                
Gustavus, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified  following  the presentation  on                                                             
COVID-19 Impacts on Communities and CARES Act Funding.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
TOM WILLIAMS, Administrator                                                                                                     
City of Gustavus                                                                                                                
Gustavus, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Answered  questions  during the  testimony                                                             
that   followed  the   presentation   on   COVID-19  Impacts   on                                                               
Communities and CARES Act Funding.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
TOD LARSON, Manager                                                                                                             
City of Dillingham                                                                                                              
Dillingham, Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified  following  the presentation  on                                                             
COVID-19 Impacts on Communities and CARES Act Funding.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
JIM MATHERLY, Mayor                                                                                                             
City of Fairbanks                                                                                                               
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified  following  the presentation  on                                                             
COVID-19 Impacts on Communities and CARES Act Funding.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MIKE MEEKS, Manager                                                                                                             
City of Fairbanks                                                                                                               
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified  following  the presentation  on                                                             
COVID-19 Impacts on Communities and CARES Act Funding.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
VINNY CORAZZA, City Manager                                                                                                     
City of Bethel                                                                                                                  
Bethel, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified  following  the presentation  on                                                             
COVID-19 Impacts on Communities and CARES Act Funding.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:07:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DRUMMOND  called  the   House  Community  and  Regional                                                             
Affairs  Standing  Committee  meeting   to  order  at  8:07  a.m.                                                               
Representatives Johnson,  Thompson, Jackson, Claman,  Hannan, and                                                               
Drummond  were present  at  the call  to  order.   Representative                                                               
Kreiss-Tomkins  arrived as  the meeting  was in  progress.   Also                                                               
present were Representatives  Hopkins, Josephson, Representatives                                                               
Ortiz  (via  teleconference),   Tuck  (via  teleconference),  and                                                               
Edgmon (via teleconference).                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION:   COVID-19  Impacts on  Communities and  CARES Act                                                               
Funding                                                                                                                         
  PRESENTATION:  COVID-19 Impacts on Communities and CARES Act                                                              
                            Funding                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
8:08:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DRUMMOND  announced that  the  only  order of  business                                                               
would  be a  Presentation:  COVID-19 Impacts  on Communities  and                                                               
CARES Act Funding.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:09:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NILS  ANDREASSEN, Executive  Director,  Alaska Municipal  League,                                                               
gave   a  PowerPoint   presentation   on   COVID-19  Impacts   on                                                               
Communities and  CARES Act  Funding.  [The  heading on  the first                                                               
slide  read:   "Local  Government Impact"  and "Alaska  Municipal                                                               
League."]   He  directed  attention  to Slide  2,  which read  as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Emergency declarations                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
      ? Goal: Clear point of contact, budget flexibility,                                                                       
     mobilize response                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ? Unified Command lists 87 declarations received                                                                           
        ? AML has collected 73 of those and passed them                                                                         
     to Unified Command                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     ? Process involves drafting, governing body passage                                                                        
          ? Amendments may be necessary, including to                                                                           
     extend as the crisis continues                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     ? Additional types of resolutions in response to State                                                                     
     Health Mandates                                                                                                            
         ? Every change or addition at the State level                                                                          
     requires adaptation at the local                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     ? Municipal managers often have leadership roles                                                                           
          ?  Elected officials  have broader  responsibility                                                                    
     to set policy                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN added that a  statewide public health emergency is                                                               
challenging,  in terms  of managing  communications and  ensuring                                                               
the  state has  access to  points of  contact in  each community.                                                               
Emergency   declarations   allow    communities   to   reallocate                                                               
resources, name  an incident commander,  and make  decisions they                                                               
might not  otherwise be able to  make.  He indicated  half of all                                                               
communities in Alaska have taken this  step.  He talked about the                                                               
work involved in being in crisis mode.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:11:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDREASSEN  turned  to  slide   3,  which  read  as  follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Emergency management                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     ?  Goal:   Emergency  operations,  state   and  federal                                                                    
     communications                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     ? Unified Command lists 20 active municipal EOCs                                                                           
          ?  AML  has provided  points  of  contact for  165                                                                    
     cities and boroughs                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     ? Incident  commander in each community,  with teams of                                                                    
     public officials dedicated to managing crisis                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     ? Responding  to State and Federal  emergency officials                                                                    
     within the  Unified Command    clarifying  mandates and                                                                    
     resources                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     ?  Implementing  federal,  state  and  local  decisions                                                                    
     effectively                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     ? Coordinating response to resident concerns                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN said it is  essential during a statewide emergency                                                               
to ensure  there are local  government contacts with  the ability                                                               
to  communicate with  unified  command.   He  related that  since                                                               
early  March,  local   government  officials,  leadership  teams,                                                               
managers,  attorneys,   clerks,  and  human   resource  officials                                                               
collectively have  been consumed  by emergency  management, which                                                               
has   included:     reviewing  personnel   policies,  identifying                                                               
essential  and  nonessential  workers, managing  leave,  managing                                                               
public   health  within   the  local   government  setting,   and                                                               
responding to each  of the federal alerts and  mandates that have                                                               
been  issued.   He emphasized  that local  governments must  keep                                                               
apace with each tweak of state  information and each mandate.  He                                                               
said,  "For  every state  action,  there  are  as many  as  1,000                                                               
different local actions having to be taken."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:15:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDREASSEN, in  response to  Co-Chair Drummond,  spoke about                                                               
the  many facets  in  which local  governments  scramble to  make                                                               
changes to keep up with state  information during the crisis.  In                                                               
response to  a follow-up  question regarding  the 165  cities and                                                               
boroughs,   he  indicated   that  AML   is  responding   only  to                                                               
incorporated  cities  and  boroughs;  unincorporated  communities                                                               
receive community  assistance on "a  basic level."   He mentioned                                                               
that  the legislature  is the  assembly for  unorganized boroughs                                                               
and  the  unincorporated  communities  therein, and  he  said  he                                                               
thinks the  state bears  "a different  kind of  responsibility to                                                               
working with those communities that aren't incorporated."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:19:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDREASSEN   discussed  slide  4,  which   read  as  follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Travel restrictions                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     ? Goal:  Avoid community  spread and  overwhelmed heath                                                                    
     facilities                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     ? Implemented  in majority of remote  (off road system)                                                                    
     communities, either by tribe or city, or both                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     ?  Manage incoming  visitors to  require quarantine  or                                                                    
     other protective measures                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     ? Dissuading non-essential visits                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ? Communities  overcoming general confusion  about role                                                                    
     and responsibilities, including  in response to changes                                                                    
     to State mandates                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ?   Restricting   inter-state   travel   perhaps   most                                                                    
     effective  mitigation measure  of state;  local control                                                                    
     of   in-state   travel    ensures   further   community                                                                    
        protection, especially where small or no health                                                                         
     facilities                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDREASSEN remarked  that  the state  took  early action  in                                                               
terms  of travel  restrictions.   He said  he does  not have  the                                                               
numbers  to  state  how  many   communities  have  issued  travel                                                               
restrictions.  He  opined that travel restrictions  have been one                                                               
of  the most  effective measures  in handling  the public  health                                                               
crisis.    Conversely,  they  have  been  the  biggest  point  of                                                               
contention, in  terms of  determining who  has the  authority and                                                               
responsibility  and  when  the   state  can  "supersede  a  local                                                               
government's   interest  in   protecting  a   community's  public                                                               
health."   He estimated  that out of  the 87 or  so of  about 220                                                               
communities  that have  issued emergency  declarations, the  vast                                                               
majority have  issued travel restrictions.   He said  tribes have                                                               
also taken action under different  authority; a lot of the travel                                                               
restrictions he has  seen have been issued by the  city and tribe                                                               
jointly to more effectively "leverage  their governance."  Larger                                                               
communities are governed by state mandates.   He said there is an                                                               
"Attachment B" that allows smaller  communities to keep their own                                                               
restrictions   in  place.     He   said,  "This   has  additional                                                               
implications."    He listed:    project  delays, restrictions  on                                                               
industry, additional quarantine  requirements for teachers coming                                                               
in to school  districts.  Small communities may not  have a place                                                               
for quarantine.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:22:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDREASSEN  turned  to  slide   5,  which  read  as  follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided, with some formatting changes]:                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Responding to public health crisis                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     ? Goal: Mitigation measures, active first responders,                                                                      
     PPE, testing                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     ? Implementing State Health Mandates and CDC guidance                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
        ? Implementing local actions that protect public                                                                        
     health                                                                                                                     
            Different by class and powers                                                                                       
          ? what can we do vs. what can we ask public to do                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     ? Requesting resources from State EOC                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     ? Establishing continuity of operations                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ?  Identifying essential  and  non-essential staff  and                                                                    
     reallocating staff time and overtime                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     ? Working with business and nonprofit partners                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDREASSEN mentioned  there are  differences between  larger                                                               
municipalities and smaller, home rule  communities.  He said each                                                               
local  government   went  through  a  continuity   of  operations                                                               
planning  process   to  rework  how  services   are  provided  to                                                               
citizens.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:24:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN discussed the information on slide 6, which read                                                                 
as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Hunkered down                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     ? Goal:  Closed public facilities,  operating remotely,                                                                    
     continued service                                                                                                          
          ? Libraries  - closed  but some  offering curbside                                                                    
     pickup, online access                                                                                                      
          ? Pools  closed, maintenance required                                                                                 
          ? Rec Centers  closed, maintenance required                                                                           
          ? Museums - closed                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ? City offices                                                                                                             
          ?  Staff  remote   working  except  for  essential                                                                    
     services                                                                                                                   
          ? Appointment  only   reduce lines,  total overall                                                                    
     traffic                                                                                                                    
          ?  No physical  transactions    deferred payments,                                                                    
     no cash, online services                                                                                                   
          ?   Council   and  Assembly   meetings   conducted                                                                    
     virtually, with public participation                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:26:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN discussed slide 7, which read as follows                                                                         
[original punctuation provided, with some formatting changes]:                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Budgets                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ? Goal: Addressing significant lost revenues                                                                               
     ? Current Budget                                                                                                           
          ?  Spending from  savings    emergency management,                                                                    
     uncertain reimbursement                                                                                                    
          ?  Furloughs implemented,  offset by  overtime and                                                                    
     reallocated staff time                                                                                                     
          ? Closed facilities plus lost tax revenue                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     ? FY21 Budget                                                                                                              
          ?  Tax increases    may  be necessary,  especially                                                                    
     for   school   bond   debt   reimbursement;   recognize                                                                    
     challenges during economic crisis                                                                                          
          ?  Program reduction     least  likely right  now,                                                                    
     with economic rebound needed                                                                                               
          ?  Spending  from  saving     less  available  for                                                                    
     future emergencies                                                                                                         
               ? Significantly reduced as used to manage                                                                        
               current crisis                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:27:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN related the information on slide 8, which read as                                                                
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Significantly reduced as used  to manage current crisis                                                                    
     7 Implementing business and resident support                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     ?  Goal:  Alleviate   resident  and  business  economic                                                                    
     crisis                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     ? Implement grants, waivers and extensions                                                                                 
          ? At  least two  communities have  provided direct                                                                    
     resident support                                                                                                           
          ? At  least one  community has provided  grants or                                                                    
     loans to businesses                                                                                                        
          ?  A number  of communities  have been  supporting                                                                    
     nonprofits                                                                                                                 
          ?  All utilities  have been  kept connected,  with                                                                    
     payments extended and fees waived or extended                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     ? Economic  task forces launched in  collaboration with                                                                    
     local business community                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     ?  Leveraging  technology     what's  open  and  what's                                                                    
     changed                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ? Resource- and information-sharing                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:29:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN brought  attention to the information  on slide 9,                                                               
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Costs of COVID                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     ? Short-term expenditures = $150-250 million                                                                               
     ? Short-term lost revenues = $250-400 million                                                                              
     ? Long-term expenditures = $150-250 million                                                                                
     ? Long-term lost revenues = $400-500 million                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     ? Short = March through May/June                                                                                           
     ? Long = June/July through December                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDREASSEN  advised   that  the  cost  of   COVID  has  been                                                               
undervalued.   A lot of  needs have been  met out of  the current                                                               
budget, but  that has  been done  through reallocation  of funds.                                                               
He said  the crisis is  far from over.   He said,  "We're talking                                                               
about  at least  through the  end of  this year  managing through                                                               
uncertainty."   He  indicated  that  if he  were  to  do a  quick                                                               
calculation, he could  "come up with this being  something like a                                                               
billion-dollar crisis,  ... at  the end of  the day,"  but across                                                               
the board there is no way  for municipalities to really know what                                                               
the cost of this pandemic will be.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:31:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN  covered the information  on slide 10,  which read                                                               
as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Short-term allowable expenditures                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ? All staff time spent on public health emergency                                                                          
          ? 7,691 employees affected  20% majority of time                                                                      
        ? Leave requirements of the FFCRA or implemented                                                                        
     locally                                                                                                                    
          ? All first responders and EOC personnel                                                                              
     ? All responses to Federal or State Health Mandates                                                                        
          ? Arguably any closures of public facilities                                                                          
     ? 20% to 50% variable impacts to $2.5 billion budgets                                                                      
     over a quarter                                                                                                             
        ? Plus additional costs of direct response  PPE,                                                                        
     telework, outreach                                                                                                         
     ? Hospitals, schools, vulnerable population support                                                                        
      ? Economic recovery planning and business community                                                                       
     support                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:33:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN addressed slide 11, which read as follows                                                                        
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Snapshot                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     ?  17  municipalities  provided  current  estimates  of                                                                    
     costs                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     ? Roughly  accounted for $87 million,  even though many                                                                    
     left expense side off                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     ?  $640 average  per capita  expenditure on  direct and                                                                    
     secondary impacts  (not including lost revenue)  = $528                                                                    
     million                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ? About  equal to  45% with  very early  estimations by                                                                    
     municipalities                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     ? Varies widely  by class and powers adopted    any per                                                                    
     capita  formula  doesn't  accurately  differentiate  by                                                                    
     roles   and   responsibilities,   thus   miscalculating                                                                    
     impacts and need                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN covered the allowable expenditures, as listed on                                                                 
slide 12, which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Long-term allowable expenditures                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     ? Public Health Emergency                                                                                                  
          ? Preparation  for additional  surges in  cases as                                                                    
     reopening continues                                                                                                        
          ?   Interstate  travel   restrictions  will   have                                                                    
     biggest impact, potentially                                                                                                
          ?  Eight   more  months,   at  least,   of  crisis                                                                    
     management and recovery                                                                                                    
          ? Vulnerable population support                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     ? Social distancing, hygiene, and sanitizing                                                                               
          ? Water and wastewater improvements                                                                                   
            Public building redesign and improvements                                                                           
          ? Additional staff needs for implementation                                                                           
          ? Rethinking service delivery                                                                                         
          ? Crisis communications                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN said local governments are given a lot of                                                                        
latitude in terms of how they can use CARES Act funding in                                                                      
support of residents.  He said  public facilities will have to be                                                               
redesigned.   Mentioning  the mandate  for people  to wash  their                                                               
hands, he suggested a question  as to whether [providing] running                                                               
water  in places  that  do not  have it  would  be covered  under                                                               
allowable expenditures, and he said, "I  hope so."  He said there                                                               
is a lot to consider.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:35:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HANNAN  asked how  many of 165  communities do  not have                                                               
water.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:36:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN estimated 22.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:37:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  THOMPSON asked  whether  AML would  reach out  to                                                               
non-AML-affiliated   communities   to   help   support   accurate                                                               
reporting  and  compliance.   He  expressed  concern  that  these                                                               
communities would need help and he did  not know how to get it to                                                               
them.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN talked  about support for members.  He  said he is                                                               
open  to   working  with   Representative  Thompson   and  others                                                               
regarding  the  extent  to which  that  assistance  was  extended                                                               
beyond  municipal government;  however,  to a  large extent,  the                                                               
onus  for helping  unorganized  boroughs  and the  unincorporated                                                               
communities therein falls to the legislature.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:40:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DRUMMOND thanked  Mr. Andreassen  for making  clear the                                                               
responsibility  of the  legislature to  serve those  boroughs and                                                               
communities "with those kinds of services."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:40:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON  indicated  his  takeaway  from  recent                                                               
guidance  of  the U.S.  Department  of  Treasury was  that  local                                                               
governments  must constantly  question  whether  something is  an                                                               
allowable  expense.   He  asked  whether  local governments  were                                                               
being advised to vigorously ask this question.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:42:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN answered that the  U.S. Department of Treasury put                                                               
forth three points:   Is it allowable?   Is it necessary?   Is it                                                               
reasonable?  Each unit government  must make these determinations                                                               
and will  consider those questions tied  with additional guidance                                                               
provided by the federal department.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:45:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN returned to the  PowerPoint presentation, to slide                                                               
13, which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Secondary impacts                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ? All actions in  support of businesses, residents, and                                                                    
     nonprofits that have demonstrated need                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     ? Local control of priority investments                                                                                    
          ?   Development   and  implementation   of   grant                                                                    
     programs                                                                                                                   
          ? Training programs for workforce or furloughs                                                                        
          ? Legal and consultant fees                                                                                           
          ?  Municipal  owned  airports,  hospitals,  school                                                                    
     districts, ports, and utilities                                                                                            
          ?  Contract  deferral  costs;  vendor  replacement                                                                    
     costs                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDREASSEN  said he  thinks  secondary  impacts will  be  "a                                                               
bigger  way for  local  governments  to play  a  role to  support                                                               
businesses, rather than nonprofits and others."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDREASSEN directed  attention to  slides 14  and 15,  which                                                               
read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Potential Uses                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Expenditures  for  renovations of  municipal  buildings                                                                    
     and/or  procurement  of  equipment  to  enhance  social                                                                    
     distancing,  protect against  secondary COVID-19  virus                                                                    
     transmission,  and enhance  remote access  of Municipal                                                                    
     services:                                                                                                                  
          ? Create 1-stop customer service centers;                                                                             
          ? Renovate HVAC system to add HEPA filters                                                                            
          ?  Deep  clean  entire building  &  replace  floor                                                                    
     coverings                                                                                                                  
          ? Install key card access                                                                                             
          ?  Purchase  state-of-the-art   IT  equipment  for                                                                    
     better remote meeting capability                                                                                           
          ?  Purchase  IT   software/equipment  for  greatly                                                                    
     enhanced online  access to municipal  functions (online                                                                    
     sales tax filing, building permit requests, etc.)                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Expenditures for community  centers and local education                                                                    
     to   enhance   social   distancing,   protect   against                                                                    
     secondary   COVID-19    virus   transmission,   enhance                                                                    
     distance learning,  and deal  with emotional  trauma in                                                                    
     children:                                                                                                                  
          ?  Purchase distance  learning  hardware for  each                                                                    
     student                                                                                                                    
          ?  Purchase  distance  learning  software  and  IT                                                                    
     hardware                                                                                                                   
          ?  Purchase  food   service  equipment  to  permit                                                                    
     dining in each classroom                                                                                                   
          ?  Hire a  temporary mental  health counselor  for                                                                    
     each school                                                                                                                
          ?  Remodel libraries,  locker rooms,  common areas                                                                    
     to accommodate social distancing 14                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Potential Uses                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Expenditures   for  direct   financial  assistance   to                                                                    
     private  business and  citizens to  offset the  adverse                                                                    
     economic impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic;                                                                                 
          ?  Direct payments  by  municipality into  utility                                                                    
     accounts of vulnerable citizens/businesses                                                                                 
          ?  Direct payments  by  municipality into  moorage                                                                    
     accounts of vulnerable citizens/businesses                                                                                 
          ? Direct stimulus payments to residents                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Expenditures   for  economic   assistance  to   private                                                                    
     businesses  and residents  to assist  in recovery  from                                                                    
     loss  of  business  or employment  resulting  from  the                                                                    
     COVID-19 pandemic;                                                                                                         
          ? Direct business loans that turn into grants                                                                         
          ?  Direct payments  by  to pay  off  bad debts  of                                                                    
     citizens/businesses that  can't repay the debts  due to                                                                    
     loss of jobs/business                                                                                                      
          ? Purchase  of fish from commercial  fisherman for                                                                    
     free distribution to citizens                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Expenditures for  new programs  to identify  or protect                                                                    
     against  COVID-19   virus  transmission,   or,  protect                                                                    
     vulnerable    populations   against    COVID-19   virus                                                                    
     transmission   or   poverty-related  impacts   of   the                                                                    
     pandemic.                                                                                                                  
          ?  Create and  operate  municipal  food pantry  or                                                                    
     essential food package distribution system                                                                                 
          ? Create and operate a homeless shelter                                                                               
          ?  Create and  operate  a job  training/retraining                                                                    
     program                                                                                                                    
          ? Create and operate a new business incubator                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN remarked there are a lot of options, and he                                                                      
thinks members are considering long- and short-term options.  He                                                                
predicted more plans will emerge in the coming weeks.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:47:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN brought attention to the information on slide 16,                                                                
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Treasury Guidance                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ?  "Necessary"  expenditure   is  determined  by  local                                                                    
     government official                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     ?  No  lost  revenue  replacement,  nor  anything  that                                                                    
     appears as such                                                                                                            
          ?  No utility  payments  or  property tax  relief,                                                                    
     except in relation to individual circumstance                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     ? Can include staff  time even though already budgeted,                                                                    
     if staff time applied to public health emergency                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     ? State  can transfer  to local governments,  and local                                                                    
     governments  to  State,  as needed  to  address  public                                                                    
     health emergency                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     ?  Workers  compensation  coverage allowed  for  public                                                                    
     facing personnel                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     ?  Interest   earned  must  be  used   consistent  with                                                                    
     original purpose                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     ? Assets acquired for  public health emergency purposes                                                                    
     may be kept                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     ? Recovery planning efforts are an allowable expense                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     ? Hospital support allowed                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     ? Record-keeping sufficient to demonstrate compliance                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN,  regarding the second  bullet point,  stated that                                                               
although  AML does  not  agree with  that  interpretation, it  is                                                               
"moving forward with that understanding."   He commented that the                                                               
U.S.  Department of  Treasury guidance  gives  latitude to  local                                                               
governments to spend the funds.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:48:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN provided his conclusion  with slide 17, which read                                                               
as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Conclusions                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     ?  Local governments  are currently  undervaluing their                                                                    
     allowable expenditures under the CARES Act guidance                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     ?  Local governments  should be  able  to expend  their                                                                    
     overall total allocation of CARES  Act funding but will                                                                    
     still see a relative and significant deficit                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     ? A  municipality and  OMB should  be able  to identify                                                                    
     unspendable  or  unspent  funds that  may  need  to  be                                                                    
     redistributed  to  communities  in  demonstrable  need.                                                                    
     This   is  easily   accomplished   under  the   current                                                                    
     structure.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     ? It is very difficult  to anticipate expenses over the                                                                    
     next eight months, assuming  potential spikes or surges                                                                    
     of Coronavirus cases.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     ?  Community support  mechanisms  can be  led by  local                                                                    
     governments,  to  strengthen   and  provide  relief  to                                                                    
     businesses, organizations and individuals.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     ?  Additional Congressional  or State  support will  be                                                                    
     necessary                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDREASSEN  said local  governments  have  been "looking  at                                                               
what's  right in  front  of them"  and  tracking direct  expenses                                                               
"beyond  what's budgeted."    He  said, "A  lot  of that's  gonna                                                               
change  as we  now have  new guidance  and can  reinterpret those                                                               
past two  months' expenses."   He  said members  are increasingly                                                               
expressing that  the funds  are needed now  rather than  later to                                                               
keep municipalities running and jobs  and businesses secured.  He                                                               
said  he thinks  local governments  will be  able to  spend their                                                               
total CARES Act  funding, as currently proposed,  but "that won't                                                               
address their shortfall, in terms  of lost revenues and ... their                                                               
FY 21 budget."   Communities will need to work  with the state to                                                               
move funds around  as necessary.  He said, "We  don't know what's                                                               
coming,  but this  is  a  huge insurance  policy  to allow  local                                                               
government to make  sure that they're able to  respond as changes                                                               
occur."   He  emphasized his  support for  local control  in this                                                               
issue.   He said AML  is "advocating at the  congressional level"                                                               
for changes to  the CARES Act that "can address  the lost revenue                                                               
portion."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:51:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JACKSON mentioned a  "water challenge" through the                                                               
University  of Alaska  Anchorage,  about five  years ago,  during                                                               
which  addressed  utilities  for  running  water  that  could  be                                                               
maintained  by villages,  and  she indicated  she  was bring  the                                                               
subject up  because it had not  been looked into.   She asked Mr.                                                               
Andreassen  whether any  monies  coming in  through  the Act  are                                                               
being  used to  build infrastructure  for protecting  communities                                                               
both now  and into the  future or if they  are just serving  as a                                                               
Band-Aid.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:53:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN  responded that he  remembered the  challenge, and                                                               
he  acknowledged the  entities involved,  with which  he said  he                                                               
thinks local governments  will be able to work  to implement some                                                               
of the innovation  that came about from that challenge.   He said                                                               
the U.S. Department  of Treasury's guidance does  speak to assets                                                               
purchased  during this  time being  used for  this emergency  and                                                               
repurposed  for   future  emergencies,   as  long  as   they  are                                                               
determined to be necessary and allowable.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JACKSON  expressed  she  was  glad  to  hear  Mr.                                                               
Andreassen was aware  of the issue, and she hoped  there would be                                                               
further discussion of it.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:55:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHNSON directed  attention to  a handout  in the                                                               
committee  packet,  [a  letter from  Neil  Steininger,  Director,                                                               
Office  of Management  and  Budget, Office  of  the Governor,  to                                                               
Representative Chris  Tuck, Chair,  Legislative Budget  and Audit                                                               
Committee, dated May  1, 2020, and including a  CARES Act summary                                                               
sheet  and a  package  of revised  programs legislative  (RPLs).]                                                               
She  observed that  Talkeetna, which  would be  hard hit  [by the                                                               
lack  of tourists  due to  the pandemic]  and whose  relief would                                                               
likely come  from the Matanuska-Susitna  Borough, was not  one of                                                               
the communities  named to  receive relief funds.   She  asked how                                                               
the list was formulated and how  the amounts of relief funds were                                                               
determined.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:57:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDREASSEN explained  that  the  administration makes  those                                                               
determinations;  however,   he  noted  that  "as   we've  flagged                                                               
concerns, they've tried  to address those."  He said  there is no                                                               
perfect formula.   He  stated, "Ultimately it's  not going  to be                                                               
about what  goes in or out  from the state to  local governments;                                                               
it's going to  be about ... how able the  local governments [are]                                                               
to spend that on allowable expenditures."   He said AML views the                                                               
important  factor as  the ability  to move  funds around  between                                                               
communities to  address need, to  not leave any federal  funds on                                                               
the table, and to manage risk.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON expressed interest  in learning more about                                                               
the formulas and whether everything  in them "relate to something                                                               
that could be used for COVID relief."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDREASSEN said  he cannot  speak to  how the  formulas were                                                               
made but  can speak  to how  communities can  be helped  to spend                                                               
these  funds in  an  allowable  manner in  response  to a  health                                                               
emergency.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:00:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DRUMMOND suggested  the  committee could  ask the  five                                                               
communities  that  would  be  presenting  in  the  upcoming  hour                                                               
whether they know "how the formula was applied."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:01:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR   HANNAN  asked   whether  Talkeetna   is  one   of  the                                                               
communities that does not typically receive state assistance.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:01:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDREASSEN said  he does  not  know.   He said  there are  a                                                               
couple  inconsistencies that  AML is  trying to  address and  has                                                               
forwarded to  the administration.   He said statute lays  out the                                                               
guidelines regarding  community assistance, and he  does not know                                                               
the specific status of Talkeetna.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:02:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HANNAN  asked Mr. Andreassen  to elaborate on  the third                                                               
bullet  point  on  slide  17, which  read  as  follows  [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ? A  municipality and  OMB should  be able  to identify                                                                    
     unspendable  or  unspent  funds that  may  need  to  be                                                                    
     redistributed  to  communities  in  demonstrable  need.                                                                    
     This   is  easily   accomplished   under  the   current                                                                    
     structure.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HANNAN specified she wanted  to know what Mr. Andreassen                                                               
meant by "current structure."                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN  indicated it involves  OMB, a grant  process that                                                               
would  follow the  "treasury guideline,"  and collaboration  with                                                               
state agencies.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HANNAN  presumed this would be  more easily accomplished                                                               
when AML  helps to set  up uniform  reporting for the  165 member                                                               
communities; this would add a level of transparency.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN agreed.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:05:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JACKSON asked  how shared  funds would  be shared                                                               
and whether they would flow back through the state.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN answered that that is  still to be determined.  It                                                               
would be  up to OMB  and the  Division of Community  and Regional                                                               
Affairs  (DCRA) [under  the Department  of Commerce,  Community &                                                               
Economic Development  (DCCED)] to  set the right  structure based                                                               
on  its  grant process.    He  said  he  thinks there  is  "early                                                               
indication that ... things like that could be accommodated."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:06:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND  thanked Mr.  Andreassen for  his presentation.                                                               
She noted  the committee would  hear from some city  officials on                                                               
how COVID-19  is affecting  their communities  and how  CARES Act                                                               
funding could be used.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:07:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STEPHANIE QUEEN,  City Manager,  City of  Soldotna, spoke  to the                                                               
committee about the effects of  COVID-19 in Soldotna and need for                                                               
CARES Act funds.   She began by sharing what  the city's response                                                               
has been  thus far,  beginning on  March 13.   She said  the city                                                               
closed sports centers  and shut down all  large events; libraries                                                               
were  closed  to  the  public;   several  days  later,  all  city                                                               
facilities  were closed  to the  public.   Policies  were put  in                                                               
place to keep  employees safe and keep  essential services going.                                                               
She said  focus was put  on maintaining public safety,  water and                                                               
sewer  utilities, and  road  maintenance.   She  stated that  the                                                               
city's  existing  emergency  operations plan  has  one  paragraph                                                               
indicating that  there is  no existing  policy for  an infectious                                                               
disease pandemic.   She said the  City of Soldotna looked  to its                                                               
peers, to  other local governments tackling  the same challenges,                                                               
and to Mr. Andreassen.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:10:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. QUEEN next  discussed expenditures.  She said  the city spent                                                               
money on items such as masks  and sanitizer; however, the bulk of                                                               
its  expenditure  has  been  in   time  responding  to  mandates,                                                               
developing  new policies,  and  learning  about unemployment  and                                                               
emergency leave to keep people safe.   She said although the city                                                               
is  tracking its  expenses as  best it  can, it  has not  come to                                                               
consensus on  what the definition of  expenditures includes, thus                                                               
it has  not yet calculated its  expenses.  Ms. Queen  relayed the                                                               
biggest impact is  lost revenue, which has been  quantified.  She                                                               
said 75  percent of the  City of Soldotna's general  fund revenue                                                               
comes from sales tax.   Next are investment earnings, followed by                                                               
parks and recreation user fees.   Those three categories combined                                                               
make up 90 percent of the  city's general fund revenue.  Property                                                               
tax  is only  3 percent.   She  said those  categories have  been                                                               
significantly  impacted, with  an expected  loss or  reduction of                                                               
$800,000 of sales  tax revenue for just March through  June.  The                                                               
city  is projecting  a $1.7  million reduction  in sales  tax for                                                               
fiscal  year 2021  (FY 21).   Combined  with those  other revenue                                                               
sources,  the projected  reduction in  the FY  21 budget  is $2.2                                                               
million.  She  said this would be a significant  loss of about $3                                                               
million  out of  a general  fund budget  of $10.5  million.   For                                                               
effect, she shared that amount  is essentially the budget for the                                                               
city's police department.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:13:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. QUEEN talked  about the necessity to redo the  budget, with a                                                               
plan   for  being   conservative  in   "cutting  discretion   and                                                               
spending."   She said  the city  has been  fortunate in  having a                                                               
healthy fund balance,  which has allowed it  to continue building                                                               
and maintaining  when state funds  have not been available.   The                                                               
$3 million hit  to the budget will impact the  ability to do that                                                               
moving  forward,  she  said.   Also  impacted  will  be  interest                                                               
earnings.  Ms. Queen, in terms  of looking forward, said the City                                                               
of Soldotna  spent the first  month of the pandemic  figuring out                                                               
how to close down safely,  and "now, suddenly, everyone's talking                                                               
about  how  to open  up  again."    This requires  internal  risk                                                               
assessment.  She said currently she  is spending the most time in                                                               
consideration  of  reopening  boat launches,  camp  grounds,  and                                                               
fishing infrastructure.   Delivering  these services  may require                                                               
innovative  service delivery  options.   The  library now  offers                                                               
drive-up  pickup  services  for  books.   She  talked  about  the                                                               
essential services of  the library and the  importance of getting                                                               
it open.  The guidance and  rules, as written, are being followed                                                               
by  the city.   She  said she  thinks the  city will  be able  to                                                               
reimburse some of its personnel expenses and direct expenses.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:17:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. QUEEN said there will  be "opportunities ... for direct pass-                                                               
through  for programs  that relieve  community  need or  business                                                               
owner  need."   For  example,  the  City  of Soldotna  started  a                                                               
storefront  improvement program  in 2012  with a  matching grant,                                                               
and  this   has  been  transformed  into   a  virtual  storefront                                                               
improvement  program for  businesses  to  improve their  presence                                                               
online.  She said that is the  type of thing that may be eligible                                                               
for CARES  Act funds and  could increase in scale  going forward.                                                               
She said the  city also has thought creatively  about the ability                                                               
for communities or municipalities to  share or pass through funds                                                               
to other layers of government  or to nonprofit organizations, for                                                               
example.    She said  planning  is  in process,  and  streamlined                                                               
guidelines  will  be  helpful in  managing  such  a  considerable                                                               
amount of  money to use it  in the best way  possible and without                                                               
waste.  She remarked, "We're all  making decisions at a pace that                                                               
doesn't  leave a  lot time  for  deliberative, really  thoughtful                                                               
consideration,  and  so the  more  that  we  can do  together  to                                                               
identify good  uses of this  funding, or strategic uses,  I think                                                               
we're all going to be better off for it."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:19:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HANNAN referred to the  figure of $3 million anticipated                                                               
lost revenue from this fiscal year.   She asked whether Ms. Queen                                                               
has speculated as  to the next fiscal year, which  begins on July                                                               
1.   She surmised that since  Soldotna is on the  road system, it                                                               
is probably  a community that has  seen a return in  travelers to                                                               
its area, which may generate  revenue; however, she asked whether                                                               
Ms. Queen  has anticipated  what restricted  travel will  mean in                                                               
terms of lost revenue over the summer season.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:20:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  QUEEN clarified  that  the  $3 million  of  lost revenue  is                                                               
actually the  combined number  for the  remainder of  the current                                                               
fiscal year,  FY 20, and  FY 21.  She  said for the  budget being                                                               
built  for FY  21, the  city  expects to  be down  by about  $2.2                                                               
million,  and  it expects  to  be  down  about $800,000  for  the                                                               
remainder  of the  current fiscal  year.   She  said Soldotna  is                                                               
seeing traffic.   The  cities of  Homer and  Seward are  ahead of                                                               
Soldotna in its boat launches  and campgrounds filling.  She said                                                               
the City  of Soldotna typically  opens May  15, but she  does not                                                               
know if the  city will be ready  to do that by  then, because she                                                               
wants  to see  and approve  an operational  plan put  out by  the                                                               
parks  directors.   She said  reopening some  businesses is  both                                                               
exciting  and anxiety  producing, as  city leaders  determine how                                                               
people will interact safely in spaces.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:22:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND asked Ms. Queen  whether she had considered the                                                               
impacts of  Governor Mike Dunleavy's  vetoes to the FY  21 budget                                                               
and whether  the legislature should  restore that  funding either                                                               
through  a  veto   override,  if  possible,  or   through  a  new                                                               
appropriations bill.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:22:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. QUEEN answered  that she had not considered that  point.  She                                                               
said  the City  of Soldotna  "was relatively  insulated from  the                                                               
impact of those vetoes."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:23:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALVIN  CASIPIT,  Mayor, City  of  Gustavus,  in response  to  an                                                               
earlier  question, related  that the  City of  Gustavus does  not                                                               
have a municipal water system.   He then related that the City of                                                               
Gustavus is a  rural remote community of  approximately 537 full-                                                               
time residents.   Access is only  by boat or airplane.   Gustavus                                                               
has a clinic, which operates  with one nurse practitioner and one                                                               
staff.  Summer tourism is  the primary income source, producing a                                                               
sales tax, income tax, and "a  small amount of our fish box tax."                                                               
He related that  the City of Gustavus does not  impose a property                                                               
tax.   Mr. Casipit emphasized  that state funding is  critical to                                                               
provide  services   to  the  community;  the   little  money  the                                                               
community  receives in  federal  receipts is  allotted mostly  to                                                               
road maintenance.   He indicated  that COVID-19 has  impacted the                                                               
city's  budgeting  process  catastrophically.     He  said  while                                                               
Gustavus has  some money in  reserves, "a protracted  shutdown of                                                               
our economy will  create ... the necessity  to eliminate services                                                               
that make our  city a city."  For example,  he predicted the city                                                               
recycling  center  would have  to  cut  its hours,  resulting  in                                                               
people  burying, burning,  or dumping  trash;  the city  library,                                                               
which offers many activities and  learning opportunities could be                                                               
affected;  and businesses  may have  to reduce  services or  shut                                                               
down.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:26:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. CASIPIT  related that the  City of Gustavus  derives $336,000                                                               
from combined  sales tax and bed  tax and other revenues,  and it                                                               
is not  counting on any of  that revenue in FY  21, because there                                                               
won't be  much of a "tourist  season."  He warned  that without a                                                               
return  to  some  level  of normalcy,  Gustavus  would  face  the                                                               
closing of  businesses, the outmigration  of its citizens,  and a                                                               
collapse of  its social  systems related  to health  and welfare.                                                               
He remarked  that many  people in Gustavus  spend money  on goods                                                               
and  services  in Juneau.    Mr.  Casipit  opined that  the  full                                                               
Community Assistance Program (CAP)  needs to be restored, whether                                                               
through supplemental funding or a veto  override.  He said he had                                                               
corresponded with  the legislature and  others early in  the year                                                               
expressing  concern  over  "the  assumption that  the  CARES  Act                                                               
funding could  be substituted  for the  assistance program."   He                                                               
added, "I think it needs to  be fully funded, and then figure out                                                               
a  way to  supplement it  later, if  we can."   He  noted minimal                                                               
expenditures  have been  made  on supplies;  money  spent on  the                                                               
increased  staff  time  spent  is still  being  calculated.    He                                                               
reported that the  City of Gustavus has  taken significant action                                                               
to keep COVID-19  out of the community, thus it  has not spent "a                                                               
whole lot  of money"  responding to COVID-19.   He  said spending                                                               
will  increase   dramatically  once  there  are   cases  locally.                                                               
Currently, the hit to the budget  has been to revenues, and since                                                               
CARES Act money cannot be used  to replace lost revenue, the city                                                               
is in  a tough situation and  hopes the governor will  be able to                                                               
help.  He  concluded, "We feel like we've done  what was right as                                                               
far as  preventing [COVID-19] from  coming to the  community, but                                                               
now  we're  in a  spot  where  ... we're  not  going  to see  the                                                               
revenues that we normally see."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:31:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR   DRUMMOND,  regarding   Mr.  Casipit's   comment  about                                                               
overriding  the veto  or restoring  community  funds, asked  what                                                               
that amount would be for Gustavus under normal circumstances.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. CASIPIT deferred the question to his city manager.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:31:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TOM  WILLIAMS, Administrator,  City of  Gustavus, said  this year                                                               
the City of Gustavus was going to get approximately $75,000.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND  stated that there  was an RPL for  $375,804 in                                                               
direct municipal relief  to the City of Gustavus.   She said this                                                               
information  was  in   a  table  and  being   considered  by  the                                                               
Legislative Budget  and Audit Committee.   She  acknowledged that                                                               
that is  funding Mr. Casipit  is concerned cannot be  used, since                                                               
it cannot be spent to recoup lost revenues.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:33:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HANNAN indicated  that the  City of  Gustavus, under  a                                                               
"supplement B,"  is allowed to  place travel restrictions  on who                                                               
can come into the community, and  she remarked that that would be                                                               
easier done in  March than in June [when  tourism typically would                                                               
be active].   She  asked how those  restrictions have  been going                                                               
now  that it  is May  and seasonal  residents may  be seeking  to                                                               
return.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. CASIPIT  answered that  it has been  challenging.   He shared                                                               
that Gustavus has no law enforcement,  so there tends to be a lot                                                               
of feedback  from residents reporting, for  example, when someone                                                               
has not strictly  adhered to a 14-day quarantine.   He said staff                                                               
is  spending a  lot of  time working  with businesses  with staff                                                               
that  want  to come  back  to  Gustavus.    He relayed  that  the                                                               
Gustavus City Council  is working on a resolution  to address the                                                               
operations of the dock.  He  said the City of Gustavus is "taking                                                               
it as it  comes" and attempting to work  closely and consistently                                                               
with the  state mandates.   This requires much time,  effort, and                                                               
coordination of staff.   In response to a  follow-up question, he                                                               
reported that  the dock work  is still in progress  and scheduled                                                               
for completion on June 1.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:37:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TOD LARSON,  Manager, City of  Dillingham, noted  that Dillingham                                                               
is one of only a handful  of first-class cities in an unorganized                                                               
borough.  He described the ripple  effect of the pandemic, and he                                                               
said the ripple  had not yet reached the City  of Dillingham.  He                                                               
related that  the city already  has a small  staff, and he  is in                                                               
reactive   mode,   addressing    state   mandates   and   council                                                               
requirements  and ordinances.   He  noted  that the  city has  an                                                               
accounting firm that gives advice.   He said he has done research                                                               
and has  found there is not  a lot of federal  or state guidance.                                                               
He said  the RPL for  the City  of Dillingham would  provide $3.4                                                               
million, but "it's not money in the  bank for us."  He added, "We                                                               
know there's  going to be  something out  there, ... and  we have                                                               
been spending it."  He said  the city is spending money on unique                                                               
items,  such as  tents, cots,  and sleeping  bags.   He explained                                                               
that  processing  workers  are  starting to  arrive,  as  fishing                                                               
begins in three weeks.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:41:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LARSON  noted that the  community has  a small hospital.   He                                                               
explained that  sometimes a  new hire  does not  get on  with the                                                               
crew  and  is returned  to  shore;  the  city wants  to  maintain                                                               
separation  between its  residents  and  transient fishing  fleet                                                               
during the pandemic.  He  emphasized concern about the hospital's                                                               
limited  capacity.    He  said  citizens  in  the  community  are                                                               
anxious, and there  are been struggles related  to "response from                                                               
the administration."   Mr. Larson said the city  has extended its                                                               
closures; it began a new  emergency ordinance spanning 60 days to                                                               
June 29.  He mentioned speaking  with two staff of the Department                                                               
of Transportation & Public Facilities  (DOT&PF), and he expressed                                                               
the difficulty of navigating  through mandates and simultaneously                                                               
addressing everyday concerns, such as pot holes in the roads.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:43:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LARSON said  the City  of Dillingham  has "the  lost revenue                                                               
issue" and  unbalanced reserves  that it  can leverage  to spend.                                                               
He complimented Mr.  Andreassen for some of the ideas  he had put                                                               
forward.  He  said the school bond dept  really hurt financially.                                                               
He indicated that  in FY 19, the city was  paying $320,000; in FY                                                               
20, that  amount was $750,000; and  in FY 21, the  amount is $1.1                                                               
million.    He  said  that  is an  increase  in  three  years  of                                                               
approximately  $700,000 out  of a  budget of  about $13  million,                                                               
which he  said is significant.   He added to that  an expenditure                                                               
of  approximately $100,000  of community  service.   He said  the                                                               
city  expects  long-term revenue  issues  but  does not  have  an                                                               
estimate on  that yet.   Legal fees are increasing  as ordinances                                                               
are  created.   Currently  there  are  a number  of  construction                                                               
projects for  which the  city bonded, and  some workers  from the                                                               
Lower 48 have  to quarantine, which will result  in a significant                                                               
impact  to the  cost of  the projects.   He  remarked that  he is                                                               
looking  at three  more months  of this  [related to  fishing and                                                               
construction  season]  and said  he  is  exhausted already.    He                                                               
welcomed questions from the committee.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:47:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DRUMMOND   asked  how   much  CAP  usually   brings  to                                                               
Dillingham.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LARSON  answered  $107,000  last  year  and  a  little  over                                                               
$200,000 in prior years.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:49:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HANNAN   asked  what  the   demands  on  the   City  of                                                               
Dillingham's  water  system  are  with  the  influx  of  seasonal                                                               
workers.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. LARSON answered  that the water system services  only a small                                                               
part  of town;  some seafood  processors receive  water from  the                                                               
city while others  operate on a well system.   He said Dillingham                                                               
triples in size when the fleet comes in.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:51:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DRUMMOND  asked  Mr.  Larson  whether  there  were  any                                                               
further issues in  the vetoed items, beyond the  school bond debt                                                               
and CAP,  that would affect the  City of Dillingham and  which he                                                               
would like the legislature to override or reappropriate.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LARSON  answered   that  those  are  "the   two  big  ones."                                                               
Notwithstanding that, he  said any loss of revenue  is an impact.                                                               
He expressed  appreciation to the legislators  for their efforts.                                                               
He speculated  that everyone  has the same  goals in  mind; "it's                                                               
just tough right now."                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:52:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JIM MATHERLY,  Mayor, City of  Fairbanks, acknowledged  what each                                                               
community is facing  during the pandemic, and he  said the entire                                                               
state is experiencing something unexpected  and which "none of us                                                               
has experienced."   He  reported that early  on, the  city spread                                                               
out  its  workers to  avoid  proximity  to  anyone who  might  be                                                               
contagious, and  out of  its 200 employees,  only one  has tested                                                               
positive, and that person quarantined  at home and recovered.  In                                                               
addition to COVID-19, the City  of Fairbanks has dealt with lower                                                               
than average temperatures, a big  "break up" producing more water                                                               
than  usual, and  copious amounts  of snow  this last  year.   He                                                               
reminded  the committee  that  the City  of  Fairbanks is  tucked                                                               
within  a  second-class borough.    He  said he  has  experienced                                                               
pressure from those  wanting him to close down  businesses in the                                                               
city limits, but  he considered that the result of  that would be                                                               
that people would congregate in  businesses just outside the city                                                               
limits,  for example,  crowding  into restaurants,  some of  them                                                               
just across  the street from  city limits.   He pointed  out that                                                               
the  borough mayor  does not  have  the authority  to close  down                                                               
businesses,  only  the  governor  can   do  that,  and  which  he                                                               
subsequently  did.   Mr.  Matherly  said  a unified  command  was                                                               
created  comprising himself  and  representatives from  Fairbanks                                                               
Regional  Hospital, Fairbanks  North  Star Borough,  the City  of                                                               
North  Pole, Eielson  Air Force  Base, and  Fort Wainwright.   He                                                               
reported that the unified command  created structure and has been                                                               
successful.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:57:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MATHERLY  stated that the economic  impacts are immeasurable.                                                               
A few weeks ago,  he said, the City of Fairbanks  was facing a $3                                                               
million loss;  however, since then  more businesses  have closed,                                                               
which shrinks the  tax base.  He named some  businesses that have                                                               
shut down and the  effect of the loss of tourism.   He said he is                                                               
getting pressure  regarding the annual Tanana  Valley State Fair,                                                               
which might  have to be canceled.   He named other  annual events                                                               
on the chopping block.  He said  2020 is up to a $5 million loss,                                                               
and that  number is continually  increasing.  The  borough, which                                                               
closed the  public library,  the pool, and  schools, has  its own                                                               
calculations.   The city is in  charge of police and  fire, which                                                               
must  stay  active;  public  works, such  as  snow  plowing;  and                                                               
garbage pickup.   He emphasized  the effort  made by the  City of                                                               
Fairbanks.   He  noted that  the annual  clean-up day  would take                                                               
place, because  the city  needs a break  from COVID-19  and there                                                               
will  be  mask wearing  and  sufficient  social distancing.    He                                                               
credited  many  restaurants  in the  city  adapting  by  offering                                                               
curbside pickup, but said it has  been sad to see many businesses                                                               
closing because  they could  not make  it.  He  spoke of  a "soft                                                               
opening"  of restaurants,  with  many  making individual  choices                                                               
about whether to  open their doors, while others are  open and do                                                               
not require  their employees to wear  a mask.  He  said he spends                                                               
much of time  conducting meetings by phone  to address complaints                                                               
and speak with the press.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:02:02 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MATHERLY thanked  Mr. Andreassen  and the  staff at  AML for                                                               
"getting  our messages  out  collectively ...."    He noted  that                                                               
revenue loss has been an  ongoing, fluctuating issue for the City                                                               
of  Fairbanks.   He  deferred  to  the  city manager  to  provide                                                               
details.   He  offered his  understanding that  former testifiers                                                               
had  spoken about  expenditure of  CARES Act  funds "not  just on                                                               
COVID-related expenses, but also loss of revenue."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:03:53 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MIKE MEEKS,  Manager, City  of Fairbanks,  said expenses  for the                                                               
City of  Fairbanks are approximately  what its revenue  loss will                                                               
be.   He said the city  projects a $5 million  revenue loss, most                                                               
of that related to tourism.   The city has "sin" tax and property                                                               
tax.   He  related that  of the  sin taxes,  alcohol has  fallen,                                                               
tobacco  has risen  slightly, and  marijuana  has "about"  broken                                                               
even.  The  closing of businesses is affecting  the property tax.                                                               
Worst-case  scenario  projection  for expenses  is  approximately                                                               
$1.5 million.   He said operations have moved  to at-home setups,                                                               
and though productivity has fallen, "the services are there."                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MEEKS said  the  City of  Fairbanks would  like  to see  the                                                               
provisions of the CARES Act based  on the number of citizens, not                                                               
on sales tax.   He emphasized the three things  most important to                                                               
the city's ability to grant monies  from the CARES Act are:  What                                                               
is the  final amount?   When  will the money  be received?   What                                                               
strings will be attached?  He  said unlike the City of Anchorage,                                                               
the  City of  Fairbanks will  be "risk  averse" in  terms of  the                                                               
funds.   He stressed the  difficulty in making plans  without all                                                               
the information.   He  offered his  understanding that  the funds                                                               
have to be spent by the end  of December.  He said any assistance                                                               
[the  legislature]  can  provide regarding  the  three  questions                                                               
would be appreciated.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:07:17 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. MATHERLY  related that he has  sensed a ground flow  of angst                                                               
from citizens.  He said  a vocal minority have expressed opinions                                                               
in opposition to [hunkering down]  at home and wearing masks, for                                                               
example.  He said  the sooner money can be put  into the hands of                                                               
business owners,  the better.   He  said people  are experiencing                                                               
mental angst and some are expressing anger.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:09:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE THOMPSON noted  that in the early  2000s, the City                                                               
of Fairbanks  received $2.8  million in  what was  called revenue                                                               
sharing, now  called community aide,  and he recalled  the amount                                                               
of community  aide now  is under  $500,000.   He asked  about the                                                               
affect to the city from the lack of bed tax revenue.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:09:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.   MATHERLY  answered   that  that   figure  is   still  being                                                               
calculated.  He deferred to Mr. Meeks.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:10:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEEKS  proffered that the  original estimate was  $3 million,                                                               
but since that  time Princess Cruise Line announced  it would not                                                               
be touring Alaska,  and there have been other closures.   Now, of                                                               
the $5  million projected  revenue loss,  the majority  is coming                                                               
from bed tax.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:10:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   THOMPSON   offered    his   understanding   that                                                               
[Fairbanks  Memorial Hospital]  received only  $5 million  of the                                                               
CARES Act  money and its  administrators project that by  the end                                                               
of  July the  hospital  will  be "$5  million  down."   He  said,                                                               
"Before  they were  allowed to  start up  other procedures,  they                                                               
were projecting [a]  $52 million shortfall."   He emphasized that                                                               
this hospital services  everyone within 500 miles.   He expressed                                                               
concern for  the availability of  care, and he asked  whether Mr.                                                               
Matherly had been in contact with the hospital.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:11:59 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MATHERLY confirmed  that City  of Fairbanks  representatives                                                               
had  held a  conversation with  representatives of  the hospital,                                                               
who conveyed that  they are "hurting."  He said  the hospital had                                                               
to put  off procedures  in order  to handle  COVID-19 cases.   He                                                               
related  that the  city put  100 beds  at the  Carlson Center  to                                                               
prepare for  any overrun,  which he said  luckily did  not occur.                                                               
He indicated  that the  hospital administration  made a  pitch to                                                               
the city for money and is  trying to pursue additional money from                                                               
the federal government.  He  stressed the importance of increased                                                               
funds for the hospital.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:13:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  THOMPSON  noted  another  meeting  with  hospital                                                               
administrators  was scheduled  for  Friday.   He  urged the  city                                                               
officials to pursue the issue.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:13:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HANNAN assured  Mr. Meeks  that the  legislature shares                                                               
his concern  about the RPL  process and knowing the  exact dollar                                                               
amounts going to  each local government.  She  said no amendments                                                               
can be  made to the  RPLs; therefore, it  is important to  do the                                                               
work  of  ensuring  local  governments'  needs  are  met  through                                                               
discussion  such as  occurring at  this hearing.   She  indicated                                                               
that  where there  are strings  attached is  within the  guidance                                                               
from the U.S.  Department of Treasury.  She  said the legislature                                                               
wants as much latitude as possible  for communities to be able to                                                               
serve  their own  needs, which  she described  as "hugely  varied                                                               
across the state."  The goal  is to keep communities whole and to                                                               
distribute "as  much money  as we  can legally  put out  there as                                                               
soon as possible."                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:15:31 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND  specified that RPLs  cannot be changed  by the                                                               
legislature but can be amended  by the administration; therefore,                                                               
she   urged  Mr.   Matherly  to   "have   some  strongly   worded                                                               
conversations with  the administration"  regarding the  method by                                                               
which the amounts were derived and what is needed.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:16:27 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
VINNY  CORAZZA,  City  Manager,  City  of  Bethel,  prefaced  his                                                               
testimony  by  reporting  that  Bethel was  in  a  current  flood                                                               
situation amidst the pandemic, and if  it got any worse, he would                                                               
have to  declare a  state of  emergency.  He  then said  he would                                                               
touch  on four  points:  the  city's response  in  the last  four                                                               
months and  potential need for  the end of the  year; expenditure                                                               
of  funds; loss  of revenue  and budget  impacts; and  the city's                                                               
ability to use CARES Act  funding to support community businesses                                                               
and other needs.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CORAZZA said  on his  first day  as city  manager, April  6,                                                               
2020, the mayor  called him to report the City  of Bethel's first                                                               
positive  case of  COVID-19.   He described  the emergency  steps                                                               
that  were taken.   He  said city  funds were  spent to  keep the                                                               
homeless center  open with the idea  that the city could  keep an                                                               
eye on its homeless population;  however, since "mandate 14," the                                                               
thinking   is  that   non-congregate  housing   is  better   than                                                               
congregate housing  in terms  of housing the  homeless.   He said                                                               
some villages in the Yukon-Kuskokwim  (YK) Delta demand residents                                                               
[who have been outside their  villages] quarantine 14 days before                                                               
setting foot inside  their villages, and since Bethel  is the hub                                                               
for approximately 47 villages, it has  become a transit zone.  He                                                               
said the  immediate need for [CARES  Act] funds is to  retrofit a                                                               
building to become the emergency  operations center.  Mr. Corazza                                                               
said non-congregate housing for quarantine  is another need.  The                                                               
city  has no  idea  how to  pay for  hotel  rooms for  "positive,                                                               
under-suspected, or evacuees who have no quarantine shelter."                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:20:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CORAZZA said  the  city will  need funds  to  pay people  to                                                               
operate the  shelters.   Many people  will not  volunteer because                                                               
they are  fearful of  being in close  proximity with  positive or                                                               
suspected positive cases of COVID-19.   Funds are needed to cover                                                               
food,  water,   hand  sanitizer,   as  well  as   other  personal                                                               
protection equipment (PPE).                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. CORAZZA, in  terms of loss of revenue, said  that because the                                                               
City  of Bethel  is almost  entirely dependent  on its  6 percent                                                               
sales tax,  any economic loss  would be a  hard hit.   He offered                                                               
his understanding that the city's  last reported sales tax income                                                               
was about $8  million, and the city has a  budget of $11 million.                                                               
He said,  "So, that's going  to be  ... a huge,  crippling effect                                                               
... on our economy."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. CORAZZA, regarding the ability  to use the CARES Act funding,                                                               
said the  fear of COVID-19  can cause  chaos.  For  example, even                                                               
before the first  local case of COVID-19, older  bus drivers were                                                               
too worried about driving, so  people had to take taxis; however,                                                               
one of  the largest cab companies  in town shut down  for fear of                                                               
getting COVID-19  from passengers.   The city  had to step  in to                                                               
set  up  a new  fare  system  which encouraged  individual  fares                                                               
rather than ride  sharing.  That lead to fare  prices rising, and                                                               
the  city did  not have  the  means to  subsidize this  increase.                                                               
Citizens forced  to pay  the higher  fares have  expressed anger.                                                               
He  said  CARES-Act  funding  could  be  used  to  subsidize  the                                                               
industry while encouraging  social distancing.  It  could be used                                                               
to  purchase meters,  which would  more accurately  calculate the                                                               
fare than the  current use of a stopwatch.   Mr. Corazza said the                                                               
funds could also  be used to purchase PPE, which  is hard to come                                                               
by and sold at a premium.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:25:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CORAZZA,  in   response  to  a  query   made  previously  by                                                               
Representative [Jackson], reported that the  City of Bethel has a                                                               
hybrid piped/hauled  water system.   Should a water  truck driver                                                               
get sick,  the water system would  fall apart.  He  said having a                                                               
pipe water system  is the answer, and he said  he thinks the city                                                               
would use  some of  its CARES  Act funding  to convert  the areas                                                               
still dependent on truck delivery to  a piped water system.  This                                                               
would mean citizens would be  able to wash their hands frequently                                                               
without concern  about losing their  water source if  drivers got                                                               
sick.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:26:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HANNAN asked Mr. Corazza  whether he had been a resident                                                               
of Bethel prior  to April 6 or was initiated  upon arrival with a                                                               
pandemic and flood.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:27:17 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CORAZZA answered  that he  moved from  Florida on  March 18,                                                               
thinking  he would  escape the  coronavirus,  and he  quarantined                                                               
"for several  weeks" before  his first day  working.   He related                                                               
his experience  in Florida surviving  two hurricanes  and working                                                               
with emergency operations response.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:28:38 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DRUMMOND  reiterated  her question  about  whether  the                                                               
legislature should restore veto items  through a veto override or                                                               
a  new appropriations  bill.   She also  asked what  the City  of                                                               
Bethel "normally" gets from the community assistance program.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. CORAZZA reiterated  that the sales tax is the  main source of                                                               
revenue for  the city.  He  added, "About 80 percent  of it comes                                                               
...  from taxes  of  various  avenues."   He  indicated the  city                                                               
receives $150-$200 million  through CAP.  He  said any assistance                                                               
the legislature  could provide in  restoring [the lost  sales tax                                                               
revenue] would  help restore  city operations.   If no  CARES Act                                                               
funding is provided,  the city would have to work  with a reduced                                                               
sales tax projection.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:30:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND thanked  all the speakers.  She  closed out the                                                               
meeting by expressing thanks to  all frontline workers and noting                                                               
that today is National Nurses Day.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:31:18 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Community and Regional Affairs Standing Committee meeting was                                                                   
adjourned at 10:31 a.m.